Review
An all-male dinner party in Athens in 416 BC, with plentiful wine and attentive serving-girls, seems an unlikely setting for one of the world's greatest treatises on the nature of love. Yet in the Symposium Plato presents a series of witty, erudite and immensely readable speeches on love, in a setting which would be very familiar to the Athenians of the day. Students of classical Greek will delight in Robin Waterfield's fluent yet comfortable translation. His emphasis on accessibility rather than over-literalism has produced a translation sparkling with wit and ideas, which classicists and non-classicists alike will enjoy reading. Waterfield's fascinating introduction to the text provides valuable background to the sexual mores of the time and the social culture of classical Greece. He also examines each speech in detail, elucidating some of the more oblique points of the text to enable the reader to tackle it with confidence. The Greek playwright Agathon has walked off with the laurels at a recent competition, and is celebrating his victory with a select dinner party, or symposium. As he and his guests take their places, they decide to hold back on the amount of wine they consume and talk about love. The guests at the symposium are a mixed bunch of characters, who deliver their speeches in various styles and with different reactions from their appreciative listeners. Agathon's fellow playwright, the comic master Aristophanes, is there, as is Erxymachus, a doctor, and of course Socrates himself, brilliant philosopher and Plato's mentor. The conversation ranges from a declaration of the importance of homoerotic love to Socrates's account of his discussions with the prophetess Diotima, who claimed that we can only achieve true goodness through love. Into this scene of convivial discussion bursts Alcibiades, ex-lover of Socrates, military genius and famous bon viveur with a scandalous reputation. Thrusting himself between Socrates and his latest lover, Agathon, Alcibiades insists on joining in with the discussion but soon digresses and talks about his own love for Socrates. Although some critics have found the gate-crashing Alcibiades's speech sits awkwardly on such profound metaphysical discussion, it reminds the reader of the physical reality of love, while making several pointed references back to earlier speeches. As Waterfield says at the beginning of his introduction, the Symposium should be read at a sitting and re-visited for further enjoyment and insight. Layer after layer of meaning becomes revealed, and this slender dialogue proves to be a box of ever-increasing delights. (Kirkus UK)
看到一篇老美的研究文章里面分析所谓苏格拉底式的自由,其特征之一便是不进入任何一段交易关系中,不收人家的钱,就不需要迎合别人,去说一些违心奉迎的话。这是柏拉图笔下的苏格拉底与智者们最大的区别之一。(而对比喜剧作家阿里斯托芬的《云》里,苏格拉底照样是收人钱财,...
评分爱欲的起源 ----对柏拉图《会饮》中阿里斯托芬讲辞的分析 在柏拉图的《会饮》里,阿里斯托芬向他的朋友们讲述了一个关于人的爱欲如何而来的故事。起初人有三种性别,男、女以及男女两性的混合体。每一种人都长成圆圆的球形,有双倍于现在的人的身体器官:两张长在...
评分 评分1.首先,柏拉图对于这场会饮的描述,不是直接叙述,而是经阿波罗陀若和他的朋友的对话展开的。阿波罗陀若的朋友向他打听那天夜里这场会饮到底说了什么内容——这不是孤例,因为当时苏格拉底已经死了,阿尔基弼亚德也已经逃亡,所以人们对那天晚上到底发生了什么非常好奇。 因此...
评分大体来看这个故事所要揭示的就是爱若斯是什么,由苏格拉底说的从某女人那里听到的答案,说爱若斯是对永生的一种追求,它不局限在个别的事物和个别的人上,那些局限在肉体生育上的爱若斯没有那些名垂千古的爱若斯高级。读完之后人们会产生这样的印象,就是爱若斯要追求的不是个...
翻译质朴,比较准确,注释恰到好处。
评分爱!
评分beauty as a "form"
评分作为受过一定教育的现代学生可以很轻易地说出“哲学就是爱智慧”,但symposium 所在讲述的是哲学和eros/desire/beauty联系起来的那个过程。上课时不断想起互联网meme:You think you know me, think again.
评分柏拉图的《会饮篇》,在新浪爱问下载的居然是个英文版,英文版就英文版吧,天意如此,那就啃吧。
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